{"id":35380,"date":"2024-10-17T05:37:40","date_gmt":"2024-10-16T21:37:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/?p=35380"},"modified":"2026-02-02T22:10:44","modified_gmt":"2026-02-02T14:10:44","slug":"sunk-cost-how-the-aukus-bill-keeps-rising-for-taxpayers-andrew-tillett","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/sunk-cost-how-the-aukus-bill-keeps-rising-for-taxpayers-andrew-tillett\/","title":{"rendered":"Sunk cost: How the AUKUS bill keeps rising for taxpayers &#8211; Andrew Tillett"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; color: #000000;\">Taxpayers are facing a bill of up to $20 billion (That is 20,000 x $1,000,000)<span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><sup>1<\/sup><\/span> to expand Perth\u2019s shipyard as part of getting it ready to host nuclear-powered submarines and build new warships, in what looms as one of the federal government\u2019s most expensive infrastructure projects.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; color: #000000;\">The AUKUS-related price tag dwarfs the cost of the <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><a style=\"color: #800000;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.afr.com\/link\/follow-20180101-p5k4fp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">troubled Snowy Hydro 2.0<\/a><\/span>, which has blown out to $12 billion, (That is 12,000 x $1,000,000)&nbsp; and is almost four times the $5.3 billion cost of Western Sydney Airport.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-35384 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Marles-playing-with-expensive-toys.jpg?resize=632%2C467&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"632\" height=\"467\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Marles-playing-with-expensive-toys.jpg 632w, https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Marles-playing-with-expensive-toys-480x355.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) 632px, 100vw\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; color: #000000;\"><br \/>\nDefence Minister Richard Marles will on Wednesday outline how the government plans to consolidate and upgrade shipbuilding operations at the Henderson shipyard south of Perth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; color: #000000;\">The shipyard is just one piece of the expensive AUKUS infrastructure puzzle, with untold billions also required for the expansion of Adelaide\u2019s shipyard, where nuclear-powered submarines will be built, and the eventual establishment of an east coast submarine base. The government has been coy on disclosing granular details of individual parts of AUKUS, a pact involving the US and UK sharing naval nuclear propulsion technology with Australia.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; color: #000000;\">\u201cWe are in this rather perverse situation where the government chucks out a figure of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.afr.com\/link\/follow-20180101-p5jrmw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">$268 billion to $368 billion over decades as the total cost of AUKUS<\/span><\/a>, which is so enormous so that every other number looks trivial,\u201d said former Defence Department official Marcus Hellyer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 20px;\"><br \/>\n&#8211; Insert &#8211;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-29052\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/aukus-vote.jpg?resize=927%2C572&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"927\" height=\"572\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/aukus-vote.jpg 927w, https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/aukus-vote-480x296.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) 927px, 100vw\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\"><br \/>\n\u201cBut all of the infrastructure costs for shipyards and facilities are really starting to add up. These are all extremely high costs but if you want these capabilities [of nuclear-powered submarines]<strong><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><sup>2<\/sup><\/span><\/strong> you have to pay these costs.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">Perth\u2019s shipyard is also earmarked for construction of smaller warships under the government\u2019s continuous naval shipbuilding strategy, which will be underpinned by a $10 billion fleet of new general purpose frigates.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><em><strong>Australia\u2019s new fleet of anti-submarine frigates will cost almost $4 billion each, even before weapons and other key systems are fitted, making them the navy\u2019s most expensive warship <\/strong><\/em><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 20px;\"><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">&#8211;<\/span><\/span><\/strong> <a title=\"Australia\u2019s new fleet of anti-submarine frigates will cost almost $4 billion each, even before weapons and other key systems are fitted, making them the navy\u2019s most expensive warship - The \u2018criminal price tag\u2019 for the navy\u2019s new warships is $4b a pop - Andrew Tillett - AFR\" href=\"https:\/\/www.afr.com\/policy\/foreign-affairs\/the-criminal-price-tag-for-the-navy-s-new-warships-is-4b-a-pop-20240731-p5jxvb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 20px;\">The \u2018criminal price tag\u2019 for the navy\u2019s new warships is $4b a pop<\/span><\/strong><\/a><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 20px; color: #000000;\"><em><strong> &#8211; <\/strong><\/em><strong><span class=\"_14ba773353b3ed4f3dd1 _9f5147e4a4645307537b\"><span class=\"ef988498234ab6593894\" data-testid=\"AuthorNames\">Andrew Tillett<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/span><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 20px;\"> &#8211; AFR<\/span><\/strong><em><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/em><\/span><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">The 2023 Defence Strategic Review warned about the ongoing viability of the shipyard and the hundreds of jobs it supports unless the government consolidated the various operations instead of spreading work among multiple shipbuilders.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-35381 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Submarines-at-HMAS-Stirling.jpg?resize=632%2C465&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"632\" height=\"465\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Submarines-at-HMAS-Stirling.jpg 632w, https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Submarines-at-HMAS-Stirling-480x353.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) 632px, 100vw\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">Shipbuilders Civmec and Austal already build ships for the navy and Border Force. British giant <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><a style=\"color: #800000;\" title=\"If the BAE Frigate deal is bad, then the AUKUS deal is catastrophic \u2013 Mick Lawless\" href=\"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/if-the-frigate-deal-is-bad-then-the-aukus-deal-is-catastrophic-mick-lawless\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">BAE Systems<\/a><\/span> performs maintenance on Australia\u2019s ageing Anzac frigates, while the government owned ASC conducts mid-cycle maintenance on Collins class submarines.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">With nuclear-powered submarines to be based in Perth from 2027 as part of the AUKUS agreement, the government is scrambling to upgrade berthing and maintenance facilities in WA.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">Already committed is $8 billion to expand HMAS Stirling naval base, located at Garden Island near Rockingham, south of Perth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">The government commissioned US project management firm Bechtel to assess the facilities required at Henderson.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">One source said the company had come up with options costing between $12 billion and $20 billion.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">Another source said the $20 billion reflected the cost of building two dry docks or ship lifts, a new sea wall, taking over CIVMEC\u2019s large shed, building secure offices and workshops, high-tech fences to create a security zone and restructuring of existing tenancies and possibly an extra floating dock. Some businesses would be evicted.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">Extra dry docks are a priority. They allow submarines and warships to be worked on out of the water, while also taking pressure off the nation\u2019s only other dry dock in Sydney, which is heavily in demand.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">To defray some of the burden for taxpayers, the government is considering public-private partnership, a third source said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 20px;\">&#8211; Insert &#8211;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-35385 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/With-Hockey-and-other-mates-1.jpg?resize=927%2C573&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"927\" height=\"573\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/With-Hockey-and-other-mates-1.jpg 927w, https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/With-Hockey-and-other-mates-1-480x297.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) 927px, 100vw\" \/><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 16px;\">&#8220;Public-private partnership&#8221; does not inspire any confidence given the war-hungry parasites lined up to take advantage of AUKUS<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">One piece of industry consolidation is underway, with Australian-listed Civmec buying out its German partner Luerssen to complete construction of the navy\u2019s new patrol boats at Henderson.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">Luerssen has been looking to exit Australia after this year\u2019s navy review halved the number of patrol boats on order from 12 to six.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">Civmec notified the ASX on Tuesday evening it had entered a non-binding heads of agreement to acquire the Luerssen Australia subsidiary and transfer the workforce \u2013 a transaction expected to run into hundreds of millions of dollars.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">\u201cFor us it immediately elevates us in terms of shipbuilding pedigree and gives us a ship design capability,\u201d said Mark Clay, Civmec general manager of defence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Source:<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.afr.com\/politics\/federal\/sunk-cost-how-the-aukus-bill-keeps-rising-for-taxpayers-20241015-p5kid4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Sunk cost: how the AUKUS bill keeps rising for taxpayers<\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> | <span class=\"_14ba773353b3ed4f3dd1 _9f5147e4a4645307537b\"><span class=\"ef988498234ab6593894\" data-testid=\"AuthorNames\">Andrew Tillett | AFR<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>&nbsp;<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">Notes<\/span><\/h3>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;\">1<\/span>&nbsp; <\/sup><\/span><\/strong><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; color: #000000;\">As we all know, this could blow out to double or treble that amount (the norm) as the funding is unaccountable, protected by old mate National Security.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 14px;\"><strong><sup><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">2&nbsp;<\/span> <\/sup><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000;\">Most people do not want AUKUS or radioactive waste dumped in their country. Unfortunately we have two major parties who do not GAF about what we want. 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The AUKUS-related price tag dwarfs the cost of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":35396,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[617,135,301,113,145,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-35380","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-aukus","category-australias-move-to-the-right","category-corruption","category-foreign-policy","category-military","category-political-issues"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35380","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=35380"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35380\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/35396"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=35380"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=35380"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dingo.news\/voice\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=35380"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}